As for the thousands of couples like Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi who rushed to get married in the brief window when they could? Legal experts will have to resolve in court whether their unions are still valid.
Both sides of the argument reportedly spent more than $74 million in propaganda.
Ellen recently released this video message urging Californians to Vote No on Prop 8.
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I live in CA and I voted NO on 8!!! This is horrible and unconstitutional!!!
How many times do we have to see this first it was with Rosie and her girlfriend and now with Ellen and
Portia.. ENOUGH.. DO EVERYONE A FAVOR AND DON’T BRING THIS BACK AGAIN..THE US IS
A RACIST AGAINST GAYS.. LOOK AT A SEVERAL STATES ..ONE DOESN’T WANT GAYS TO ADOPT
ANOTHER DOESN’T WANT GAYS TO GET MARRIED.. ETC…
I’m so so so sorry!
Just when I though America was ready for Change…
This is horrible! it’s very sad!
This will come up over and over and over again. You don’t oppress a class of people no matter what your “god” tells you. Nobody thought a black man would get elected and he did. Hear that motherfuckers? I’m not gay but I’m not going to oppress gays because I don’t “agree” with them. It’s a free country. And as for you bigots in California, it’s not over. Change takes time but the gays, and there are many of them, will ultimately prevail. Count on it.
Who would have ever thought that the most historically progressive state in the USA, California would vote to go back into the dark ages? This is a great day for America, but a very sad day for CA.
I have been hearing since I was a little kid, how California is going to fall off due to earthquakes.
I have moved from California, and I am still waiting on the state to fall in and drown.
I am SO happy that this did not pass
Chalk one up for us!
I wish people would stop acting so ignorant! Gays will still have the rights they fought for under the domestic partners laws. The only thing they cannot do is legally get “married”. Marriage, by definition, which started as a religious institution, is the union of one man and one woman. Yes it discriminates, it discriminates against single people and any other combination of parties other than one man and one woman. Leave marriage alone. It is what it is. It does NOT mean that gays can’t have a wedding ceremony. Last I looked nobody was getting shot for having a commitment ceremony. Furthermore, nothing is being taken away from them, since it wasn’t their right to begin with. Nobody is saying they can’t have relationships, nobody is saying they can’t throw a party! Is anybody else reading between the lines? Or are you all that ignorant you can’t see it right in front of your face. This is not a civil rights issue. This is a religious issue. And they gay community does not want to feel guilty, nor to they want to consider what they are doing may be wrong. So they will battle against those with religious conviction to appease their own consciences. Leave it alone! Have your commitment ceremonies. Create domestic partnership agreements. Those are your rights!
Come on 8. Even Germany is civilized enough to give gays the right to get married. And why not? When I see how straight people go into mariage and get divorced all the time, I wonder if a law against hetrosexual marriage wouldn’t be a better idea and for the exact reason you use here - marriage as a religious institution should be respected.
this so rued I will protest in fron of the untied states.. why is a balck man in office>
what the hell is going on ……………………………..this sucks i hate united states
I will email ellen
If you are not given equal rights, don’t pay equal taxes, plain and simple.
Put the pinch on the Government.
Plus, pinch the heads off of religious MORONS.
Ellen and Portia can throw away that wedding album….IT MEANT NOTHING!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
I voted NO too.
this sucks.
Aww I’m so sad! That is so wrong
It doesn’t matter if you vote no they voted yes to the bill..~~ Ellen is just like Rosie getting married and finding
out it means nothing later
LOL!
hee hee
I cant wait!
Its the DEMS fault!
lol
All you sore losers, you need to take your own advice. The the voice of the voters has been heard loud and clear. Quit whining.
LOL @ POST 19.
yeap the people spoke, and YOU will deal with it.
(handing you a tissue)
ROFLMFAO!
ok, to the person who hates america…no one says you have to live here. So if you don’t like it go to china or somewhere and see how much you like it there. To all of you who don’t think that a gay couple has as much right to be married as my husband and I do, maybe you should go to china also.Just like you should do if you have a problem having an african american as your president. These ladies and gentlemen have ( OR SHOULD) have every right you do, they have family members fighting for this country and our freedoms just like all of the “heterosexual” couples do. Just because you may be white, or heterosexual doen’t mean you are any better than someone who is gay, or black, or purple for that matter. Come on people, were better than this. For me personally if there is ANYTHING I can do to help these couples have the same rights, I’m all for it, FINALLY we are stepping up to the plate, we have moved beyond our prejudices and elected a President on merrit not color, don’t you think it’s about time to do the same with the rest of our lives and our the rest of the american people REGARDLESS of sexual orientation…it takes nothing away from me or my marriage so what is the real problem here. Are you people that insecure with your marriages, afraid that two women or two men may get married and show us what a real marraige is supposed to be like?
as a californian, i’m really surprised it passed!!
It has taken 3 votes on this subject in Ca for it to finally pass. Some jerk judge over ruled what millions of people wanted. Well now he can’t and it’s going to be a state amendment so get over it people. Majority rules in this country and yes even in Ca.
Number 8- if it’s a religious issue why is our secular government legislating it? And as for “ignorance” many, many, many religions acknowledge gay marriage already, many religions (Christian and non-Christian) accept gay membership, etc. Is it somehow threatening to anyone’s marriage if a gay couple gets married? And as for other “religious insitutions/traditions” is the government going to outlaw wearing crosses as a fashion statement? Your argument is ludicrous.
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Gays were on their strongest ground when they said that what they did was nobody else’s business. Now they are asserting a right to other people’s approval, which is wholly different.
None of us has a right to other people’s approval.
thomas sowell.
I think this would be terrible if the gay couples that had already been married were no longer seen as legal. It just seems messy and if this was going to happen it should never have been made legal in the first place, and given couples false hope. I don’t see why they shouldn’t be able to legalise their marriage anyway. Other countries have allowed it and it hasn’t caused any problems at all. Everyone was praising California for being so foward thinking and doing something like this, and now they are taking it away. Boo!
It is a sad day for California to vote to discriminate against other human beings. Who are we to say two people can’t become married? People will look back at this time just as we look back on how we treated African Americans and be appalled. What a shameful day.
To be honest it really isn’t the governments role to legitimize or delegitimize marriage to begin with. Must the gov’t really be involved in every aspect of our lives? If you want to get married, then get married by whatever church/officiant you wish. It’s a personal act between two people. No need to involve everyone else with your personal life.
28…..Ironically enough, “hairball”, it’s the very African Americans you mention that are, to use your words “discriminating against other human beings”. In California, the Proposition 8 ban on gay marriage actually failed among white voters, 51-49. It was the 70 percent support from black voters that put the measure over the top.http://reason.com/blog/show/129925.html
Kind of a sad irony if in helping achieve one civil rights milestone, last night’s historical black turnout also helped perpetuate state-sanctioned discrimination against gay couples who wish to marry.
In addition to the vote in California where blacks voted 70% in favor of prop 8,Florida’s ban on gay marriage passed among blacks 71-29.
The exit polling data isn’t yet ccomplete in Arizona, but that state’s ban passed with a higher percentage of blacks voting in favor of the ban than other ethnicities. So it seems likely that blacks were more enthusiastic about banning gay marriage than other ethnicities in that state, too.
“it’s the very African Americans you mention that are, to use your words “discriminating against other human beings†I know, I actually read this morning that it was over-whelming the African Americans who voted for Prop 8. It’s incredibly sad that another group is being so discriminated against as to say they can’t marry. A sad day for California.
FINALLY!!! At least California got something righ this election!!!
I am upset about this erroneous finger pointing at African-Americans regarding Proposition 8. Why are you so quick to believe whatever you hear? If someone told me 70 percent of gay people voted against Obama my first thought would be, excuse me Jesus, that is crap! I don’t believe it! This political year was fraught with right wing lies. Bear that in mind.
“Religious organizations that support Proposition 8 include the Roman Catholic Church], Knights of Columbus, Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) a group of Evangelical Christians led by Jim Garlow and Miles McPherson, American Family Association, Focus on the Family[and the National Organization for Marriage Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church, California’s largest, has also endorsed the measure. The Bishops of the California Catholic Conference released a statement supporting the proposition. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) has publicly supported the proposition and encouraged their membership to support it, by asking its members to donate money and volunteer time. The First Presidency of the church announced its support for Proposition 8 in a letter read in every congregation. Latter-day Saints have provided a significant source for financial donations in support of the proposition, both inside and outside the State of California. About 45% of out-of-state contributions to Protect Marriage.com has come from Utah, over three times more than any other state.”
Still, even though gays were fighting to preserve a basic right, it was the anti-equality side in California that seemed to have the most fervor. A symbolic low point for the gay side came on Oct. 13, when the Sacramento Bee ran a remarkable story about Rick and Pam Patterson, a Mormon couple of modest means - he drives a 10-year-old Honda Civic, she raises their five boys - who had withdrawn $50,000 from their savings account and given it to the pro-8 campaign. “It was a decision we made very prayerfully,” Pam Patterson, 48, told the Bee’s Jennifer Garza. “Was it an easy decision? No. But it was a clear decision, one that had so much potential to benefit our children and their children.â€
This is your real enemy. Don’t trust exit polls. I think they are pitting one group against the other. African-Americans are less than 7% of the state population, do the math. Many more Whites voted and they put this over, not Blacks. What are the total numbers of each group that voted. Someone dug into the data and found that we’re just now learning is that the exit poll was based on less than 2,300 people. If you take into account that blacks in California only make up about 6.2%, we get roughly 224 blacks who were polled. 224 blacks to blame an entire race! The original percentage of black voters who were expected to say yes to Prop 8 was only around 52-58%. Anytime you get a vote that much higher over the projected vote, something went wrong.
I know someone who watches C-Span and they said most Blacks did not even address the question at all. And they do not have the money to fund a tens of millions of dollars Proposition 8 campaign. Note that they also targeted affirmative action for eradication in another state.
I cannot believe that these groups get a pass and Blacks are being targeted for the blame game. Rather than be upset at the phantom African-American menace, fight like hell. There is no right wing black conspiracy against gay Americans. When you tried to align your struggle with that of Blacks you inherited their enemies. These same enemies are now trying to pit one against the other because they fear the combined numbers of both.
How many gay activists supported the civil rights movement in the 1960’s? Then how do you automatically expect support in return? Have you asked Blacks to support you or did you just assume?
No one gave Obama anything and they will not give gays anything either. Obama stands on the shoulders of a lot of brave people who gave their lives for him to stand on that podium last night.
Never trust exits polls because in all my years of life, no one has ever been seen at a polling place asking anyone anything when they left.
Don’t fall for the lies.
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