SPIKE LEE LASHES OUT!

Spike Lee let it rip at Cannes yesterday, taking jabs at fellow directors Clint Eastwood and the Coen brothers.

Speaking about his World War II drama Miracle at St. Anna, Lee said that, unlike the Coens, he was respectful in the way he portrayed death.

Said Spike at a news conference: “I always treat life and death with respect, but most people don’t. Look, I love the Coen brothers; we all studied at NYU. But they treat life like a joke. Ha ha ha. A joke. It’s like, ‘Look how they killed that guy! Look how blood squirts out the side of his head!’ I see things different than that.”

Spike was also critical of the lack of black actors in Eastwood’s films: “Clint Eastwood made two films about Iwo Jima that ran for more than four hours total, and there was not one Negro actor on the screen,” he said. “If you reporters had any balls you’d ask him why. There’s no way I know why he did that — that was his vision, not mine. But I know it was pointed out to him and that he could have changed it. It’s not like he didn’t know.”

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99 Comments

  1. spinner
    May-21-2008 @ 11:58 am

    SHUT UP!!

  2. May-21-2008 @ 11:59 am

    No shit…………………..Cant stand this guy.

  3. Barack Rocks
    May-21-2008 @ 12:04 pm

    Agree completely with Spike!!!

  4. Obama for President
    May-21-2008 @ 12:05 pm

    Listen and learn from this guy. He speaks the truth.

  5. Godiva
    May-21-2008 @ 12:05 pm

    It is true. There are never any decent roles for Black actors — you always have to explain why they are there. It is almost like Hollywood is surprised that Blacks exist.

  6. cry baby
    May-21-2008 @ 12:07 pm

    wah wah wah dumb celebs that wanna tell you who to vote for and how to run your life I have no respect for. This Guy is like michelle obama and her pastor the angriest milloinaires, call sharpton and jesse to take on your cause as long as you $$$$$$$$$$ them.

  7. May-21-2008 @ 12:12 pm

    You all are on Effin crack!
    Not enough black actors in hollyweird - ?
    WTF Ever.
    ==
    See, told ya…………….Blacks are the most racist.
    They bitch because they dont get their way, then they bitch because its not EXACTLY what they want.
    ==
    Bunch of Divas wannabes.
    ==
    If they (black men) dont want to step inside of :
    Quincy Jones - John Singleton-Sidney Poitier-James Earl Jones-Paul Winfield-Dexter Gordon-Morgan Freeman-Denzel Washington-Laurence Fishburne-Will Smith-Jamie Foxx——————–etc
    shoes, then its THEIR fault, not hollywoods.
    ==

    Wake the fuck up people.

  8. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 12:13 pm

    this guy is just another race baiter , well I suppose that when obama loses he will claim that all of the US is racist

  9. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 12:15 pm

    Obama is afraid of his wife, his pastor and fox news , and you wonder why terrorists want him to win.

  10. May-21-2008 @ 12:17 pm

    POST NUMBER 8 IS SO FREAKING CORRECT!!
    POST NUMBER 8 IS SO FREAKING CORRECT!!
    POST NUMBER 8 IS SO FREAKING CORRECT!!
    POST NUMBER 8 IS SO FREAKING CORRECT!!
    POST NUMBER 8 IS SO FREAKING CORRECT!!

  11. May-21-2008 @ 12:17 pm

    I don’t think anyone said that there are not enough ‘black’ actors in Hollywood. The complaint was that they are underused in movies and television.
    .
    Spike Lee’s issue was that with two movies about Iwo Jima, no one of color was seen. Not even as filler, background, extras. It’s a legitimate statement.

  12. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 12:18 pm

    racist

  13. Homo-Erectus
    May-21-2008 @ 12:20 pm

    You are a fucking talentless goon. Your movies suck big time. I am not sure why some critics and producers keep giving your ass credit and monies to make movies. Shut the fuck up. Negro actors as you mildly put it Mr. Fucking Spike were not represented in the film because the fucking negro soldiers were not even in the 1% of the total number of soldiers during the invasion. Do you research before you fucking make any accusations! Shut the Fuck Up Spike!

    Fucking Black people like to diss it out because they know if they are confronted, whomever it may could be accused as racist. Again, FUCK YOU SPIKE!!!

  14. May-21-2008 @ 12:20 pm

    SPIKE SAID=
    If you reporters had any balls you’d ask him why. There’s no way I know why he did that — that was his vision, not mine.

    ==
    There ya go……………It wasnt HIS (spikes) vision.
    Wanting something HIS way…when it wasnt HIS movie.
    ==

  15. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 12:21 pm

    go cry over your millions you tool.

  16. May-21-2008 @ 12:21 pm

    AMEN HOME-ERECTUS!!

  17. May-21-2008 @ 12:28 pm

    Wow…this blog is turning into something that beyond what I can tolerate.
    .
    Arasto, how you have attracted such a racist group of people is beyond me.
    .
    I know they could care less if I never come back and post - but I will stick to the articles and not the comments for now.

  18. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 12:28 pm

    Michelle angry obama and her pastor are prime examples of reverse racism, with their teachings of marxist black liberation theology.

  19. boohoo
    May-21-2008 @ 12:30 pm

    another hollywood angry millionaire……

  20. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 12:32 pm

    Lots of angry white people in here . LOL. Got to love those hard-working Americans, aka, yokels with no education making $20,000 a year. I understand why you’d be angry at Spike Lee, Michelle and Barack Obama and all the rest of the successful black people in the world. Your white skin that you hold so dear, that you think makes you better, has done nothing to make your life mean anything at all. Oh boo hoo, there’s always hope for you children with President Obama in the White House. He won’t hold your ignorance against you.

  21. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 12:38 pm

    After seeing how the media brought down HILLARY, giving her the treatment reserved for republicans, I will not vote for Obama it was so unfair, more than anything I am outraged at the biased media.

  22. spinner
    May-21-2008 @ 12:39 pm

    ^^It’s all about money to you?? Think again, fool.

  23. sugar tits
    May-21-2008 @ 12:41 pm

    true anon 1238 , the media killed hillary’s campaign.

  24. Godiva
    May-21-2008 @ 12:45 pm

    No one told Hillary to lie about Bosnia — the media didn’t bring down her campaign it was her own lack of planning and spending too much money in the beginning of the campaign because she thought she was the shoe in. People please — read a book and think outside of your safe zone.

  25. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 1:03 pm

    It’s disgusting how the media turned on Hillary when obama is unelectable in the general election. the media and the dems shot themselves in the foot.

  26. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 1:13 pm

    Obama cannot win with just the black and aging hippy vote.

  27. May-21-2008 @ 1:15 pm

    Hussien (sp) will not win the White House……………..For many reasons

  28. che obama
    May-21-2008 @ 1:18 pm

    Once people who don’t pay attention to the news find out his past ties to terrorists, radicals and heritage you can stick a fork in him.

  29. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 1:20 pm

    Obama the Media’s messiah.

  30. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 1:21 pm

    Spike Lee is like every other negro……RACIST!There,I said it.By the way I am white and I don’t think I am any better than anyone.What I can say is that I work full time, have no kids,and I am a student.I don’t get shit for free unlike many “black” americans who have 1+ kids that milk the fucking system, sitting their begging asses at home while I bust my ass to pay for their food stamps,childcare,and college!It is ridicuolus.I can’t help what my ancestors did in the past….but,I am damn sure paying for it now!

  31. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 1:25 pm

    ^^^^LOL. Bitter bitter bitter.

  32. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 1:26 pm

    ^^^^LOL. Bitter bitter bitter. Blame black people for all your problems. LOL. I just love you hard-working Americans.

  33. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 1:29 pm

    anon 121 that is a broad statement you made about blacks , i disagree what our taxpayers are paying for is the epidemic of unwed mothers that live in poverty and illegal immigration forcing us to absorb the worlds poverty; that is whats destoying our economy and the many social ills that stem from it and it’s not just about race.

  34. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 1:30 pm

    ^ I’m sure you have to be black,and I am sure you do love us “hard working americans”,so,you can contiunue your “freeloading”lifestyle.

  35. May-21-2008 @ 1:31 pm

    I dont blame the blacks for “my problems”
    The blacks blame “us” for thiers though.
    They live in the past - -(yelling that slave card, please research it, whites were slaves first!)
    Blacks, Mexicans, etc………….its their fault there lives are the way that they are.
    Not mine, not yours.
    Its their choice NOT to become a better person.
    Just like it was my choice for a better life then what my parents had.
    ===
    NO ONE wants to take responisibility for their life …. It is always someone else fault that they dont get starring roles or even a slight role in a movie, or a new car or whatever the case may be.
    ===
    And I am a hard working American that is sick and tired of taking care of other people that REFUSE TO CHANGE.

  36. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 1:32 pm

    Just this week the democratic congress is sneaking into a bill amnesty for 3 million illegals, now who do you think is gonna pay for that, call your congressmen and urge them not to do it.

  37. JOSEPH CHRIST
    May-21-2008 @ 1:33 pm

    The only reason Barack Obama could possibly be “unelectable” is because of racist idiots like the ones posting on this blog. If you really think the media destroyed Hillary’s campaign, you might just be a redneck… Hillary’s insincerity killed her campaign. The fact that she couldn’t compete with Obama’s fund-raising killed her campaign. The fact that she employed the same old Republican smear tactics (as Obama was running a clean and honorable campaign based on the ideals of universal well-being), killed her campaign. Did any of you morons watch or listen to or read the speech on race? Did any of you morons notice that within our white America, the ones we assinine white folk like to believe is ours alone, there are other Americas, like the one that belongs to immigrants from 3rd world countries seeking opportunity, like those from other western countries seeking greater social mobility, like those who we brought here on slave ships to build our infrastructure centuries ago who are suddenly realizing their voice by way of this generation’s only luminary. If McCain wins the presidency, the America I live in will no longer be an America I am proud to be a part of. Bush/McCain politics have destroyed our light…
    Spike Lee is another angry black man… so what. If he wants to spew, who are we to disagree. Clint Eastwood movies suck more than any other hyped director in history, but all you white supremacist morons would have to disagree, because you cling to your guns and your religion.

  38. May-21-2008 @ 1:35 pm

    I SEE A DEM!
    You are a hateful person.
    I will CLING to MY GUNS & MY GOD!
    What will you cling onto IF Hussien (sp) wins?
    Nothing.

  39. May-21-2008 @ 1:37 pm

    That was the most stupidist thing that Hussian (sp) said.
    That alone made alot of Americans turn from him.

  40. 2BTru
    May-21-2008 @ 1:40 pm

    The amount of ignorance on this thread does not surprise me. All of these people who rant about “negros” (we’re not called that anymore, just so you know) do it in the anonymity of the internet, but wouldn’t dare speak it in their real life. Spike has a legitimate qualm with Hollywood. It’s not just with Black actors either. I’m sure he’d say the same stands for Asian and Latino actors. Hollywood does not reflect the ethnic make up of this country. When they have a chance, such as with “21″, they opted to not go with an Asian lead (even though it is based on a true story of Jeff Ma), but with Jim Sturgess. I woudn’t say Hollywood is racist, just that they underestimate the viewing public. They feel that most audiences won’t see a film with a lead of color because the audience woudn’t relate. That’s fact.

    And I’m done. So hate on haters who are so happy with your prejudices that you can’t even open your eyes to the fact that this country we live in has racist ways and a racist history that they willfully ignore. And continue to feel threatened by people of color in this country who point it out and mess up your happy little ignorant world views.

  41. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 1:43 pm

    as a bitter american or typical white person , I will vote for Mccain because Hillary my first choice was killed by the media.

  42. JOSEPH CHRIST
    May-21-2008 @ 1:45 pm

    oh and in response to any discussion on the destruction of our economy, look no further than the war in Iraq… had the money that we don’t have been spent on infrastructure and programs to help our citizens, rather than on a diversionary war that has allowed the price of oil to triple during our oil baron President’s administrations, we would all be reaping the rewards of an even better America…
    it is easy for hard-working white americans to blame everyone but the vacationing white supremacist president they elected for all their current woes, for if they assigned the blame to Bush, they would have to accept responsibility for voting for him, TWICE …
    if hippies and negroes are the only ones set to vote for Obama, why has his fund-raising grown EVERY MONTH since his campaign began, and how has he achieved this measure of success based on a fund-raising effort centered on donations made by the general public, and not lobbyists

  43. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 1:48 pm

    The white house is not ready for a “black” or woman president.

  44. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 1:50 pm

    Obama’s 57 states of us or islam? can you say freudian slip.

  45. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 1:51 pm

    spike is an ugly little rich man.

  46. JOSEPH CHRIST
    May-21-2008 @ 1:54 pm

    12-21-2012: are you a twelve year old motherless christian being raised by your gun-toting handlebar-mustached pa somewhere in rural west virginia? just wondering. your thought processes, grammar, and spelling woes seem to convey that identity…

  47. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 1:54 pm

    Pastor wright will be hung around his neck. Another millionaire rev preaching hate against the rich white man and collecting the money while living in a white neighborhood

  48. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 1:58 pm

    BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA
    BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

    BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA THE TERRORISTS CHOICE .

  49. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 1:59 pm

    No matter how much the media elevates the messiah barack hussein obam the people will see right through him.

  50. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 2:15 pm

    The tin foil hat wearing media succeeded in killing the Hillary campaign, but I doubt they will get Obama elected.

  51. May-21-2008 @ 2:15 pm

    Why dont I send you a freaking plane ticket here and say that shit to my face…You punk ass.
    Grow the fuck up - - I didnt attack you - - UNTIL you attacked me.
    Shit for brains damn Dem.
    Im in Oklahoma fuck face. :)

    aka: She Rides A Harley.
    Stupid ass

  52. May-21-2008 @ 2:18 pm

    BTW– My home town is San Jose, California.
    Im sure your going to say something bad about Oklahoma……………….So I thought I would let you know where my blood is from.

  53. Aysla
    May-21-2008 @ 2:19 pm

    ^ That was you?LOL

  54. SOI
    May-21-2008 @ 2:26 pm

    Everybody knows Hillary Clinton used “hard-working Americans” as a euphemism for white trash. So yes, I think this comment section is full of hard-working Americans. Just look at who has commented most, 12-21-2012 aka She Rides a Harley…95% of Harley riders are white trash losers. Oh and Hillary Clinton laughs at you behind your backs. She certainly doesn’t consider herself one of you. Losers.

  55. Aysla
    May-21-2008 @ 2:28 pm

    ^Poster #53 is not me.
    .
    She rides… “You are a hateful person” isn’t an attack? The snarky condescension in “I see a DEM!” isn’t an attack? It’s not that bit of a stretch to take it as one. Don’t be a hypocrite.
    .
    It boggles the mind how a rant by ONE black man suddenly became a platform for the bigots to rail against ALL black people. From the comments posted by these same few people (posting several times and under different names), it’s become my experience that this accusation of Dems being hateful is incredibly way off the mark. The republicans on this board will latch onto anything to engage in a race war.

  56. JOSEPH CHRIST
    May-21-2008 @ 2:39 pm

    I have nothing but good things to say about America, all 50 states included. It’s the white-trash morons from places like San Jose aka the white-trash capital of Northern California, who I target with my vainglorious wit. I am from your neck of the woods, but am happy to hail from just a bit north of the armpit of the Bay Area. We call you people bridge-and-tunnel when you come into SF whooping it up with your muffin-tops hanging over your too-tight black denim … btw, i am not a DEM, and in fact, you attacked me on two counts: 1) you incorrectly labeled me a hateful person and 2) you persist in calling Obama Hussien (which is an attack on all of us because you are, in essence, calling us stupid and trying to assign a negative mark on the only honorable person currently running for the top office)
    Try expressing yourself as an adult if you are not, in fact, 12 years old. xo

  57. JOSEPH CHRIST
    May-21-2008 @ 2:41 pm

    haha!!! “snarky” - a great word

  58. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 2:45 pm

    JOSEPH CHRIST owns everyone. Done. Thank you. Goodbye!

  59. Aysla
    May-21-2008 @ 2:49 pm

    Love the word “snarky” With that said….She Rides a Harley…it must be so easy for you to hide behind your keyboard.The sad but true fact is..YOU’RE A LOSER!Get over yourself and your white trash “blood line”If you were so damn proud you would not have used a code name.What a pathetic joke you are!!

  60. ONLY 1
    May-21-2008 @ 3:31 pm

    Isn’t it a shame so much resentment is felt on both the black and white side (not saying they don’t but I rarely hear this argument about latin or asian citizens, with this much animosity). Obviously, each side for every day americans - not the rich ones - have the same concerns and hurts for different reasons regarding our government, economy and racial relations. Why can’t we all realize that we are human beings and it hurts to be judged, excluded, demonized and/or trivialized because of your RACE or for any other reason which you have no control over. There are degenerates in every aspect of society and the rest of us Black, White, Hispanic, Asian… whatever are judged on those.
    .
    No matter who you are, do the best you can with what you have been given and realize most of us are all just a squirrel trying to get a nut in life.. and we do it legally and legitimately.
    PEACE ALL!

  61. Aysla
    May-21-2008 @ 3:47 pm

    Post #59 not me. And nicely said, ONLY 1.

  62. ONLY 1
    May-21-2008 @ 4:00 pm

    thanks ; )

  63. 4.54
    May-21-2008 @ 4:20 pm

    I agree with him, and I don’t understand all the vitriol aimed at him for pointing it out. And for everyone saying black people are racist, you need to know that a minority generally isn’t racist, but angry at their oppressors. And yep, African-Americans are still oppressed. If everything is so wonderful for them and they should quit their bitching, then why are there more young black men in prison than in college? Before you go saying what another race is, maybe you should try to understand their struggle.

  64. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 4:34 pm

    obama will be brought down by ayers, rezko, wright and michelle.

  65. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 4:45 pm

    4.54

    Black men put themselves in prison for committing crimes. Should we send them to college for knocking over liquor stores?

  66. Ree
    May-21-2008 @ 5:01 pm

    Some of these comments are very disappointing. Its as if we as Americans have not progressed when it comes to issues of race. It truly hurts my heart to read these comments and really hear what some think of my race. I am an independent, employed, college educated African American woman with no kids and doing quite well. Yes we do exist and there are alot of us. Not all of us are on welfare or lazy as some of you have expressed. The funny thing is that no race is dominant over the other. We all have our struggles and battles being black, white, asian, latino and so forth. No race is perfect. the country we live in provides us the freedom to speak our minds and isnt that what Spike Lee is doing. He is just bringing recognition to some of the struggles we as black americans deal with on an everyday basis. As badly as I would like to stoop to the level of some people who commented, I choose to take a higher and respectful road. No matter how much hate, disrespect or ignorance you have towards blacks, we are here and not going anywhere. So get used to it. Best of luck to all of you who chose to make completely ignorant comments. I hope you take the time to educate yourself about a beautiful race that includes inventors, docotrs, lawyers, scientist, moguls, politicians, athletes, educators and so many other positive contributions to American society. Peace and Love.

  67. I Support America, Do You?
    May-21-2008 @ 5:06 pm

    Either your African or American.
    How in the hell can you be both?

  68. Learn Something
    May-21-2008 @ 5:10 pm

    Barack Obama’s middle name is Hussein, the same last name as Saddam Hussein….

  69. Honey
    May-21-2008 @ 5:15 pm

    See, this is what is wrong with you people. You truly are uneducated and ignorant and all too quick to gobble up the lies and propaganda fed to you by the power elites. Affirmative Action and welfare have both had the most benefit for WHITE women. This is a simple fact. And yet you have allowed the select few white men who hold all the power to distort this fact. If Affirmative action and welfare programs are eliminated, sure it will affect many black people, but it will have also have a disastrous effect on millions of white families. But in all of your hate and ignorance and desire to hold on to stupid divisions created specifically for the purpose of keeping you poor and others rich, you decide to rail against black people who really are not even responsible for the state of race relations in this country. You are too STUPID to realize that if every single person of color packed up and moved out of this country and left it only to the entitled and deserving great white people, you WILL find some other inane and arbitrary yard stick by which to measure who you should HATE simply because they are different from you. And the people in power will help you along with that because again, they need to create divisions to camouflage the fact that they are actually the ones who are the most different from YOU. If you go to the grocery store and look for sales, you have more in common with the average black person than you do Hillary Clinton. If you drive a few blocks hoping to find gas at a cheaper price, you have more in common with an illegal Mexican than you do with George Bush. But it doesn’t matter. This kind of hate will not persist and this country will not turn around until this ugliness is addressed and redressed. Yes, racism is the nasty birth defect of this country and it will not last. So you can either be apart of the solution or you can continue to cling to the ugliness of the past, but either way it’s going to happen.

  70. JOSEPH CHRIST
    May-21-2008 @ 5:23 pm

    HUSSEIN HUSSEIN HUSSEIN same as Saddam blah blah blah … so what?

  71. Bunny
    May-21-2008 @ 5:32 pm

    Re-directing back to the original article on Spike’s lashing out……..I have never been impressed by his films at all. I think his comments are very presumptious in knowing what visions the Coen brothers and Clint Eastwood had while filming. Their art, their movies, their inpretations. He needs to get over himself already. Surely he can be more creative and original in promoting his film that this……

  72. Big Brother
    May-21-2008 @ 5:35 pm

    Maybe he is acting out this way due to his movie ratings suck?

  73. adam
    May-21-2008 @ 5:36 pm

    not sure how this spun out of control so badly.
    did spike also castigate W.E.T, IVORY magazine and the Ms White America contest. oops i mean BET?

    now that’s apartheid programming.
    BLACK POKER STARS for gd sake?!
    go read mediatakeout.com or any other hiphop site…you’ll be called a caveman if you’re white and absolutely degraded with horrific racism…visiting those sites have opened my eyes to black church racism that is extremely mainstream at this point.
    btw who calls blacks ‘negroes’ anymore?!?! i thought i had to go in a time machine to see those words!
    i’m with you ONLY 1 on post 60…

    joe christ…you’re wrong again on so many issues. but i applaud you for smacking the racists down. this election has to do with obama being as shady as they come. he has intentionally and ‘carefully chosen’ (as he says in ‘dreams’) the most salacious and anti american circles to run in to quench his powerlust…whether those allegiances are disengenuous or not, it shows massive judgment failure, anti americanism OR chameleon skills…none of which stop him from scaring the crap out of me. bottom line; i don’t believe he has any idea or respect for democracy, the free market, capitalism and in general, the pillars of american exceptionalism. i don’t believe he learned american values at the UCC, in chitown politics, at harvard, from his marxist father, his genocidal cuz, or in jakarta…every time he says ‘i love this country’ i hear, ‘i love this world’ and i think his vacuous and intentionally ambiguous persona and use of ‘change’ is an excuse for socialism and global taxes. take away his teleprompter and he falls on his face. i don’t blame people for getting excited about him, clearly things are messed up…but it’s time to put all the pieces together. he’s an invention and if you all continue to ‘judge the cover of the book’ we’ll all be sorry. he even says he’ll pick judges based on minority opinion. MLK jr is rolling in his grave.
    JUDGE ON CONTENT OF CHARACTER! NOT SKIN COLOR!
    this is not to say i like johnny mac…it’s to say this FKNG country cannot produce a single viable candidate anymore and it’s depressing.
    it’s another turd sandwich vs a giant douche southpark episode.

  74. adam
    May-21-2008 @ 5:44 pm

    amen to adam

  75. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 5:46 pm

    ADAM nailed it !!!!!!!

  76. Big Brother
    May-21-2008 @ 5:47 pm

    WTG Adam……………
    it’s to say this FKNG country cannot produce a single viable candidate anymore and it’s depressing.

  77. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 5:49 pm

    Adam’s first three lines rendered his post useless. Only an ignoramus would agree with him.

  78. Aysla
    May-21-2008 @ 6:04 pm

    Learn Something
    Posted: May 21st, 2008 at 5:10 pm
    .
    ^My full name has “Cabrera” in it… that must mean I’m related to Ryan Cabrera!

  79. JOSEPH CHRIST
    May-21-2008 @ 6:14 pm

    Thank you Adam. Someone with intelligence challenging a position I have only developed through my own limited research is someone I can rely on for opportunities for new learning. I appreciate your contribution. enlighten me further, how am I wrong again? on so many issues? again? issues? blog on…

  80. JOSEPH CHRIST
    May-21-2008 @ 6:23 pm

    80 posts!!! PEOPLE, we must actually care this time around!!! This is altogether positive, regardless of the fact that so many racist idiots are participating. The public is galvanizing and I believe we will reach a historic milestone in the sheer numbers of citizens who turn out to vote this time around. I am proud to be a part of such a concerned and vocal bunch… kudos to all.

  81. anon
    May-21-2008 @ 7:03 pm

    I agree with his perspective except for his use of “negro.” That was just inflammatory used purely to enhance his argument. Otherwise, yeah, I get it.

  82. adam
    May-21-2008 @ 7:09 pm

    my bad joe c…
    didn’t mean to single you out. i usually don’t agree with your posts, as i’m sure you don’t agree w mine…however, i shouldn’t have dragged that into this convo where most ppl are newcomers. my concerns about obama are there no matter what your posts said so it was pointless to name you.

    BTW wtf is with the label, ‘working class?’
    as if 99.9% of us don’t need to work for a living.
    we should FORCE polticians and the media to define ‘middle-class,’ ‘rich’ etc.
    part of my reasoning is that people who are actually ‘middle class’ are taxed as rich people by the dems even as they agree, ‘tax the rich!’
    i don’t even think 100k/yr is that much anymore…and i’d say 500k/yr is ‘rich.’ any amount below that and most of the time, the earner is busting her fricking butt working 70 hrs a week…more than 500k and money begins to work for you with interest and investments.

  83. 4.54
    May-21-2008 @ 7:35 pm

    4.54

    Black men put themselves in prison for committing crimes. Should we send them to college for knocking over liquor stores?
    ___________________________________

    Do you honestly think that so many young black men commit crimes despite being afforded the same opportunities as young white men? No, they are not. The system works to keep African-Americans down; many are born into poverty and there are no mechanisms in place to help them to get out of it. I know you were just being a smart-ass, but it sickens me that you likely think that blacks aren’t subjugated.

  84. JOSEPH CHRIST
    May-21-2008 @ 7:40 pm

    check out craigslist.org — you don’t even need money … for 200 roses you can laid!!!

  85. adam
    May-21-2008 @ 7:48 pm

    4:54
    actually, there’s a million ‘mechanisms in place’ that were INTENDED to help but like most social programs, they backfire and end up KEEPING them down because they don’t incentivize the right behaviors…i highly doubt that’s what you meant when you said, ‘the system works to keep blacks down.’ as if that benefits our society. geez.

  86. 4.54
    May-21-2008 @ 8:31 pm

    adam, I’m not really understanding the tone or meaning of your message, care to elaborate?

    What I meant was that, unfortunately, african-americans sometimes live in poorer areas, which means that their schools (which are almost always locally funded) deliver poorer quality education, even in better areas blacks are given less opportunities by their possibly unintentionally prejudiced teachers, they receive poorer medical care and don’t have the same access as whites to things like rehab, and they have less access to higher education because public school classes are often geared toward white students.

    “as if that benefits our society.” I get the feeling you were trying to be sarcastic. If that isn’t true, I apologize, but if it is then you need to know that I will not have a conversation with someone who can’t respect another person’s opinion and is obnoxiously arrogant. We’re on a gossip site, we’re not organizing a movement for social change, so why check your silly little pseudo-ego at the door?

  87. JOSEPH EGO-TRIPPER
    May-21-2008 @ 8:41 pm

    I AM THE OTHER SON OF GOD, THE ONE NOT GENERALLY ASSOCIATED WITH A RELIGION USED AS A MASK BY IMPERIALLY DRIVEN EMPIRES TO CONQUER AND DESTROY UNDER THE GUISE OF BUILDING FAITH … whereas my brother walked the earth teaching people mercy and love, I took the inheritance of our Father and blew it in Vegas on whores and cheap spirits. And now I’m on welfare, and forever will be. God Bless America, where the world’s destitute are welcomed with open arms and whose ignorant masses believe they have a say in the happenings of the Empire, allthewhile strapped to a couch with a bag o lays and a remote… long live White America!!! George Bush is my hero!!!

  88. Heartland
    May-21-2008 @ 8:53 pm

    All those offended by the word “Negroes”, should direct their animosity at the person who first used it in this reference: Spike Lee. If Spike can say it why can’t the rest of us?? By the way, I’m white and have never been to Caucasia.

  89. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 9:09 pm

    the truth is we have no good candidates…. which is really sad.

  90. Anonymous
    May-21-2008 @ 9:23 pm

    Hillary too a licking from the media and hollywood and still ticking, as much as I dislike her I give her props for being a fighter.

  91. adam
    May-21-2008 @ 10:48 pm

    i think we’re misinterpreting each other 4:54…and i kinda think you like it that way.
    i was saying that i believe there is no benefit whatsoever TO THE GOV’T by ’subjugating’ and ‘working to hold black ppl down’ in any intentional manner. you must believe it’s 1860 still. nowadays, it’s very costly, socially and economically! it’s a dead end road and i can’t think of a rational (not conspiracy laden) reason why they’d do it. so why would they? the fact that you allege a grand plan to keep them down while absolutely ignoring or misunderstanding recent attempts to solve the socio-economic imbalance is kinda shocking to me. i talked already about deliberate legislation aimed at remedying the problems. the ‘great society’ comes to my mind. it actually exacerbated the destruction of the black family by INCENTIVIZING black women and men to live separately (amongst many other things that clashed with human nature). top it off by being ripped from their homeland and spread throughout a new land with no connection to your family roots and i’m a lot more understanding than you believe. what exactly do you think all these programs were for? truth is, the destruction of the black family is the majority of the current problem. and white families are following suit to the same exact destruction to prove it’s not racist.
    NOW you ARE right about many of the social disparities that you mention, though it seems like you’re trying really hard to play victim and generally have a defeatist attitude. all groups of people that have come to america have been poor for at least a generation. and inner city schools are funded (at least in MN) near or at the top, in fact our health care and education systems are at the world’s top for spending, just not results… ‘unintentionally racist TEACHERS’ ( a liberal group) are more likely to be ‘unintentionally’ prejudiced towards the white students and what a ridiculous point to even bring up as a cause for the issues we’re discussing!?! i actually find it racially offensive of you that you think that’s a common theme in whites. less access to health care is probable but clearly MONEY is the reason and not race. and is that really keeping the masses down? rehab? finally a good one hopefully you’re referring to drug penalties and prison bs. i agree. also, hopefully not really keeping substantial numbers down though! and sorry, but WTF do you mean that ‘public classes are geared towards white students?’ are you saying we’re genetically different or something? (rev wrightish?) can’t figure out how to slice that one so it’s not absurd to me. i’ve personally been denied certain valuable experiences in my life because of being a white male…bet ya didn’t know.

  92. MikeC...
    May-21-2008 @ 11:27 pm

    Wow–things are getting rough here !!! Hate to break the news to you Spike but as far as I can determine there were damn few black guys fighting on Iwo Jima. Things were different then and most (but not all) blacks were cooks and orderlys and such (yes there were exceptions but the numbers were very small in proportion). The civil rights movement was still many years in the future in the 1940’s.

  93. May-22-2008 @ 3:38 am

    4.54-

    Here’s a newsflash for you: I’m white, but I grew up very poor without health insurance and on many occasions, didn’t even have enough food to eat. It sucks and I think it’s important for you to realize that it’s not just blacks in this country that deal with those kinds of problems. Despite my rough childhood, I don’t use that as an excuse to go out and commit crimes. Sure, I could have allowed my depressing circumstances to get the best of me and consequently play the victim but I didn’t. I had to work my ass off in school, 10 times harder than fellow classmates, just so I could get scholarships and grants to pay for college. I have a hard time sympathizing with anyone who tries to say that the reason so many black men are in prison is because of their upbringing… give me a damn break. There’s NEVER an excuse! I’m a firm believer that no matter what the circumstance is, you can make your life better. Even though America is pretty screwed up right now, we still live in the land of opportunity. You may not get rich, but you can significantly improve your life and get out of the ghetto if you actually try. Millions of people have done it.

  94. Obama's Pastor
    May-22-2008 @ 8:17 am

    people are paraoid because there are preachers er i mean race baiters telling uneducated folks that the govet put drug in black neighbor hoods and that AIDS was put in the black community to kill blacks,, all the while enriching themselves off the churches with politics of fear and hating the white man.

  95. Obama's Pastor
    May-22-2008 @ 8:18 am

    We even have people like ALICIA KEYES believing this crap, you would think she is smarter than that.

  96. mg
    May-22-2008 @ 8:19 am

    Totally agree with ash and obamas pastor.

  97. Clint E.
    May-22-2008 @ 8:53 am

    Ugh Spike… wasn’t morgan freeman in million dollar baby? wtf

  98. Anonymous
    May-22-2008 @ 9:29 am

    spike is just getting himself publicity for a movie he has coming out in October, what a shame he has to do it off of clint’s coattails, shame on you lee.

  99. cass
    May-22-2008 @ 9:32 am

    playing the race card antics mr. lee cause people to not want to see your movies unless you ONLY want uneducated blacks to see your movies.

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