A 12-year-old girl and her grandparents are suing the Chicago Board of Education, claiming that an Ashburn Community Elementary School substitute teacher’s showing of ‘Brokeback Mountain’ during class traumatized the tween and required psychological counseling.Â
According to the AP, the fill-in teach prefaced the presentation by shutting the classroom door and saying, “What happens in Ms. Buford’s class stays in Ms. Buford’s class” — which when you think about it, is far better than if she had said, “What happens in Jack Twist’s….”
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This movie is so freaking gay………….. (pun intended)
If anyone showed this gay loving movie to one of my kids………..Trust me.
I would sue the freaking shit out of them.
THERE are some parents, that DO NOT approve of this lifestyle. And BY NO MEANS is some stupid ass teacher/school going to teach my children this kind of trash.
WOW ‘She’.. tell me that you are American. Only Americans can be that ignorant.
Hey, Anonymous! Not all Americans are that ignorant. I was just as appalled by “She”’s comments as the next person. By stereotyping ignorant comments as American, you’re being as closed-minded as She.
First off, If YOU want to live like that fine. Thats YOUR choice.
DO NOT, and I repeat DO NOT FORCE your homoness on ME OR MINE.
Im not ignorant, just tired of this GAY shit being forced down my throat…………
Period.
Maybe since you took this to offense…………Your still in the closet.
My kids, are mine. Not the fucking Gov, or stupid hollywierd teaching them crap I DONT THINK is right.
How would you like to have something THAT YOU DONT STAND FOR thrown on your kids?
IF YOU DONT STAND FOR SOMETHING, YOU WILL FALL FOR EVERYTHING.
That is why Jake was so kissy kissy, huggy huggy to Aniston at the GLAAD awards. Making the movie made him insecure about his sexual identity and he had to prove himself to the gay audience. They acted like she won a major prize when she made a guest appearance in one episode. TOTALLY over the top, it looked ludicrous.
wow She, how about you concentrate on making sure your beloved children are more literate than you?
Well, kids should learn that there are other relationships then man-women relationships. Like Lisa Kudrow sang in “Friends”: “Some men like women, some men like men”.
i agree with she….lol i would have sued em too. im assuming this is a public school, and im not aware of any laws xcept in cali maybe that say homosexuality must be protrayed in a positive light, especially now that homosexuality and its acceptance have become hot buttons issues. i have nothing against homosexuals but i find homosexuality to be an unacceptable lifestyle, thus i have A HUGE PROBLEM with ppl pushing homosexual agendas on my kids.
really come on, you may love christians and think christianity is hogwash, fine with you fine with me…isnt america about tolerance, let me do me and you do you. but would you like it if someone came and showed your kids a movie like say maybe jesuscamp, where things like if you dont believe in jesus you are going to go to hell and burn are being to a twelve year old kid, would you like that?
would you like it if someone showed your kids a documentary denying the holocaust
jeez ppl come on
Oops, it’s “sometimes emen like women, sometimes men like men”. My bad.
lol whats the rating on BM anyway, when i saw the movie, i was disturbed by the sex, not b/c it was male on male, but the forcefullness of that first time
@agustina, there are other ways to show male-male r/ships without showing brokeback, why didnt they read the book. now brokeback doesnt necessariy present it in positive light, it just shows, but thats like saying lets our kids know there are ppl out there who deny the holocaust, by showing convincing looking wise men deny it wiht lots of evidence, or showing jewish kids who were hired to deny it.
I am not against gay people but this movie does not belong in an elementary school. It is not about the homosexuality of it but the sexual content period. I do not want my children watchind mild porn of heteros either.
It was rated “R” which is why the Board of Education should be sued. Gay aside, I don’t think parents would have appreciated anybody fucking in front of their 12 year old.
my mom taught me about homosexuality when i was young. and it was a good thing because it made me understand and i’m not a lesbian for that.. the teacher was probably telling the kids that being gay is OK, what’s wrong with that?
it’s not normal that this girl was “traumatized”. it’s her parents’ fault…
I personally really liked this movie and I think most adults should watch it at some time, even if its just to see what its all about. But by no means do I agree with this teacher letting children watch it, especially without parental consent. There are some parts in the movie which make even adults uncomfortable and I don’t think kids should be exposed to that until or if their parents are ready to do that. The teacher made a really bad move and by closing the door and all that it seemed like she knew it as well. And I don’t think its just about gay sex either, I wouldn’t want my kids watching anything with sex in it until I was ready for them to see that, the same with swearing, violence etc.
mylene..It is NOT the parents fault. Your way of thinking is scary. The teacher should not have shown Brokeback to those kids. The movie is rated R. Seeing that movie should be a choice not a mandatory viewing at an elementary school. Yes, there are Gay people everywhere but it should not be up to the teacher to shove it down children’s throats. If I was the parent of one of those children I would be way pissed & that teacher would be hearing from me.
Is it wrong that I’m more offended by She’s use of all caps and grammatical errors than I am by the drama over this movie?
I absolutely loved BBM. One of the most beautiful love stories I’d read/seen in quite some time… that being said, there are so many other movies that could be shown to children. Why this one? To be politically correct? Don’t we prematurely expose children to enough sex and violence to begin with? There is a time and place to talk to children about sexuality. I could understand having a day in Sex Ed class to cover homosexuality, etc. But that really seems all that would be necessary. I think we all know they’ll get plenty of exposure to gay rights, especially growing up here in the US. While I’m not sure this merits a lawsuit, I’d be annoyed too if someone was showing that to my children. It’s not appropriate subject matter for 12 year old children. Maybe okay in high school, but even then, they should have the choice as to whether they want to see it or not, not have someone else’s agenda (which this smacks of) shoved down their throats.
Excuse me, what is that movie rated, at least PG13? C’mon class, what does PG13 mean? Parental guidance suggested, not for anybody under 13!
I would be LIVID if this was shown to my 12 year old too!
Ok, I’m 26, so it wasn’t THAT long ago that i was in high school. And whenever we were shown R rated movies, such as Saving Private Ryan and other relevant films, we had to have a permission slip sent home. Or at the very least, a note informing the parents that we would be watching intense subject matter and therefore they could excuse us for that day if they didn’t want us to partake. I’ve seen Brokeback, and while there were parts that I thought were beautiful, it basically just blew past me. I think there are several other “Love Stories” that are more amazing than this one. But that’s a matter of opinion. I PERSONALLY do not agree with homosexuality, because of my religious beliefs. But if I were a teacher in the public school system, I wouldn’t be able to show a film like The Passion of The Christ, which is very violent, without having everyone and their brother up my ass for trying to “FORCE” my beliefs on others. It should go both ways. And I believe that parents should be notified before their children watch movies that have been deemed inappropriate for minors.
i wish people would stop making an issue out of homosexuality. people are people, love stories are love stories. that said, i do agree that such an obviously controversial film merited some form of permission slip to parents. it’s sad, but that’s the way it is.
i also wish that people would stop arguing that anyone is “forcing” homosexuality on them. in a society where images of heterosexual love are prominent and unquestioned, it could just as easily be argued that heterosexuality is being “forced” onto people. are images of african american couples “forcing” african american culture on caucasians? no… it is merely representation. there is a population of homosexuals that exist within society, and they have every right to be represented within the media as any other minority group. just as every religious group has the right to their own representation…
no one should control the mass media. the mass media is a representation of the masses. if you want control of what images are seen, filter that which is within your own personal sphere, but don’t deny other people the same rights that you have.
^my children are within my sphere, and it would be equally inappropriate for a movie with graphic heterosexual content to be shown in a school.
children are often very sheltered, and so they should be. At 12 they understand what homosexuality is but it is not often something they have been exposed to. I think the showing of this film was highly inappropriate, I think the showing of any film with strong sexual content of any kind would have been inappropriate but one with a homosexual content just seems weird. I really don’t understand why the teacher would have showed it to children of such a young age and it seems quite perverse to me. In no way am i against homosexuals but we have to accept that it is not most people’s definition of normal and a lot of parents do not want their children being exposed to it. Plus this young girl could come from a religious family, and most religions are morally opposed to homosexuality, a rational person would have taken this into consideration. Ultimately it was not the teacher’s place to educate children on homosexuality and if she had any kind of sense she would not even have contemplated showing that film to young children. I feel that people are in defence of her actions because people are very pro gay in the media etc at the moment, which is fine, but consider this; what would your reaction be if she’d shown them 9 1/2 weeks?
Better be careful, She. Karma is a bitch, you know. One of your precious, right-wing spawn may be gay and you don’t even know it. Remember, it’s not a learned behavior… All your chest-thumping and hysterical shrill protests won’t deter nature–you are powerless to make your children “not gay.”
She’s knee-jerking self-righteousness aside:
It really was innappropriate for this movie to be shown in school–elementary, middle, or high school. Teachers should be TEACHING their students, not just showing ‘em frigging movies. That’s just pure f-ing laziness.
‘Just Askin’ — No, it’s not learned behavior, but they are also not born that way. They were molested at a very early age. Start your own poll. I did ten years ago and they have all, yes, every last one of them, been molested at a very early age… Oh No, RACISM RACISM RACISM RACISM RACISM….
Being gay is NOT a lifestyle, and it is NOT a choice.
Irish Gal, you really ought to pull your head out of your ass before you make statements like, “All gays were molested at an early age.” Because when you talk with your head up your ass, all that comes out of your mouth is pure, unadulturated shit.
I’m feeling old as shit … we didn’t watch movies when I was in grade school. My fourteen year old ocassionally catches a movie on school time and if it’s not educational, it kinda pisses me off. We have lots of time to go to the movies out side of school and I can choose to take him to whatever I please. If children (twelve is a child) are watching soft-porn or even horror movies in school, that bothers me. We don’t send our kids to school for entertainment. IMO. Hell, some folks get pissed when the kids play dodge-ball at school. Go figure. Just sayin’.
I agree with whatever….you said it well.
Irish Gal: I CANNOT believe what you wrote. I am dumbfounded.
Carol - I was just about to comment when I saw yours. EXACTLY what I was going to say!
Homosexuality is not a “belief”. it just IS. It is just the way people are living their lives, and if you have a problem with it, that is called intolerance. Don’t use your religion as a shield for your own closed-mindedness.
That said, I don’t have a problem with censorship in school. This film contains sexual content, and so parents should have a choice as to whether their kids are subjected to it. Homosexuality should have nothing to do with the issue at large.
Irish Gal - I don’t know if you are joking. If you aren’t, well you are horridly misinformed. And i mean horridly!
That movie should never have been shown to children, and not just for the gay content, but the sex scenes in it are just waaaaay too graphic. If there was a straight equivelent shown it would be just as bad. That teacher is sick and probably should get some sort of order to not work with young children anymore.
Irish Gal, not all gays were molested as children- probably not even most. You might be thinking of sex-industry workers- prostitutes, strippers etc., who are overwhelmingly rape and molestation victims. That is actually true. I’ve never seen anything about gay people being frequent victims of sex crimes though, and I happen to know several well enough to disprove your theory.
I will NEVER be able to understand why people hate gays. I can understand being annoyed by them, but the sort of people that want to beat Sanjaya type guys to death are almost as sick as pedophiles to me. Just monsters.
My, my…aren’t we well trained to attack politically incorrect statements. I think whatever hit the nail on the head, especially the reference to the teacher’s personal agenda. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect that pre-teens not see Restricted movies at school and I don’t think schools should be trying to teach values either. That said, just another frivolous lawsuit.
“IF YOU DONT STAND FOR SOMETHING, YOU WILL FALL FOR EVERYTHING.”
Most common quote ever. But hey, u’r a mom, right? 90% of moms are some of the saddest humans alive.
“…well trained to attack politically incorrect statements”???? Hardly, Randi. There is no comparison between jumping on a bandwagon, and calling out bullshitters for what they are. Do try to learn the difference, sweetums, m’kay?
i would have no problem with my child being shown this film or any other film which would get him to understand the lifestyle or cultural differences of another person, after all i do not want to raise a bigott, however not everyone is as liberal as me and permission should have been asked first.
but then im surprised a 12 year old would have been shocked and traumatised by the concept of gays!
i mean wtf is that about?
is there a graphic sex scene or something?i must admit i have not seen the film!
or is there just a man on man kiss?
Samantha Jones-
Then with your statement, I feel sorry for your mother.
Being a mother/father is the best thing in the world. It is a gift.
And no school should be allowed to be showing a R movie to anyone under the age of 18.
That is why the damn rating system was set up.
But then someone thought they were higher ranked somehow, and took it upon themselves and showed it.
They should be held accountable. Period.
To I: There is a LOT more than just a kiss! It’s not just the “concept of gays” as you put it. There is a pretty graphic sex scene. And there is also nudity in the film (breasts). I just don’t think it’s appropriate to show these things in a school setting. If any parents are so eager for their kids to see this, they should show it themselves.
absolutely one of the best discussions EVER on here….. gay man here…never been molested (ahem, IRISH GIRL)….. i absolutely agree that BBM should not have been shown to 12 year olds…. oh …. i just think its very sad that someone truly believes what irish girl said…. UNBELIEVABLE…
I think it was a stupid idea for the teacher to have shown this movie in class. If you think about it, the children have dress codes, rules against cussing and public displays of affection, yet they are shown a rated R movie in class that shows adult content which break these same rules ? To me that is irresponsible.
Also I want to say that it really makes me sick how ignorant some people are, to hate a person for being homosexual, of a different race or even religion. These are the people who I would not want my children around, because they breed hatred masked by “because of my religion/beliefs”. You would have to put yourself in someone else’s shoes before you judge them…oh wait, I thought the bible taught not to judge…..
^ The Bible DOES teach not to judge. It also very clearly teaches that homosexuality is a sin. I believe homosexuality is wrong. That doesn’t mean that I hate gay people, or think that everyone has to share my beliefs. They are just my beliefs. If you don’t believe them as well, it’s really not a big deal to me. But it is no more wrong for me to state what i believe in than it is for anyone else. I have gay friends, i don’t care for them any less than my other friends. I just don’t agree with all of their choices. but then, I don’t agree with ALL of any body’s choices really. I still love them and support them. Just because I have definite religious beliefs does not make me a “bigot” or a hate monger. I don’t HATE anyone. But I don’t have to agree with everyone either. Simple as that.
She, my mum is in the 10% of non-sad women. She actually can’t stand women! LOL, I love her!
And again, “Being a mother/father is the best thing in the world. It is a gift.”. Another super-common quote. U r so common. SMH
It shouldn’t not have been shown, they will not win cause of damage such bs, he arleady complained about cursing haha, Things I had to read in school with lit had it,
No, Just Askin, it is jumping on the bandwagon. There are a shitload worse things going on in the world than ignorant statements but somehow actual crimes and all the suffering in the world don’t garner the same reaction. I kinda doubt we’ll hear from Irish Gal again and it’s a pity cause she’s had a lot of amusing things to say in the past.
Oh, gosh, Randi–you’re right! I’m in the wrong blog!! THIS blog about actual crimes and suffering in the world!
Golly, I must have been in the wrong blog when I reacted to IrishGal’s ignorance and general idiocy! You see, I thought I was in a celebrity and fashion blog! I totally meant to react to all the suffering in the world! My bad. LOL. How could I be so silly! To take someone to task for being stupid when I should have been commenting about, say, the proliferation of nukes in North Korea. Golly, Randy–let’s head over to the Actual Crimes and Suffering in the World blog and have a really intense discussion about it, ‘kay?
Randi, you’re an even bigger fucktard than IrishGal. Do try to stay on topic, my addled widdle snookums. And why not take a gingko bilboa enema while you’re at it? It might help improve your memory and help you remember which fucking blog you’re commenting on.
Moron!
Doesn’t take much to set you off, does it just askin? My apologies for the years of therapy you’re apparently going to need after this. I’m sure you miss the irony in the fact you seem to think the purpose of this blog is too attack people who make negative statements about some minority groups. I notice you haven’t chastized anyone for attacking Mothers or religious groups in this thread. Not “in” groups to defend. Your a lemming.
I know the purpose of this blog. That’s why I’m going to miss IrishGal’s snidely amusing comments about celebrities. You, on the other hand, are not amusing. Talk to the middle finger.